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Will the UK vote for BREXIT?
In 2 weeks from today (10-JUN-2016, when I started to write this post) we will KNOW FOR SURE the FINAL RESULTS of the BREXIT - votes of the UNITED KINGDOM OF GREATBRITAIN (Wales/Cymru, England, Scotland/Alba) and NORTHERN IRELAND. (That's how the UK is officilaly - and CORRECTLY - called since the REORGANISATION of the UK in 1922 when EIRE/IRELAND separated - I'll come to that one later again...)
According to WHICH news/online-paper you're reading the chances for a BREXIT are something between:
07-JUN-2016 (06-JUN-2016: 42% STAY to 43% LEAVE and 12% DON'T KNOW YET...)
09-JUN-2016: (the TELEGRAPH.co.uk: 51% STAY to 49% LEAVE...)
FR/10-JUN-2016: 45% STAY to 55% FAREWELL...
EU Referendum: Massive swing to Brexit – with just 12 days to go | UK Politics | News | The Independent:
Though BETFAIR has a totally different poll:
SU/12-JUN-2016: 65% STAY: to therefore only 35% LEAVE...(?)
EU Referendum Betting - Latest Polling & Odds - June 12:
Final conclusion:
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH 50 TO 50!!! (WITHOUT Betfair's poll...)
This natal chart has some SIMILARITIES with the OLD one:
(as so often, also with the many other charts for England, Scotland and Wales. And they go back to the CROWNING of King EDGAR on 11-MAY-973...!)
CONCLUSION:
1) The degrees 19-24° are VERY IMPORTANT, especially if in CANCER! (secondary: in CAPRICORN, ARIES and LIBRA - TAURUS and VIRGO...)
2) The degrees 08°-12° are VERY IMPORTANT, especially if in EARTH & WATER signs!
3) The degrees 15 -18° are SOMEWHAT IMPORTANT, especially if in FIRE SIGNS
4) The SIGNS of CANCER and CAPRICORN (nr. 1) & SAGITTARIUS (nr. 2) are SOMEWHAT IMPORTANT...
(Points Nr. 1 & 2 are MOST IMPORTANT, Points Nr. 3 & 4 are more likely to be of SECONDARY IMPACT...)
And NOW comes a kinda 'forecast' for the day (and months BEFORE and AFTER) of the BREXIT and the 2 UK-charts:
I did it more or less for the OLD UK - chart (in German language) several months before on this blog:
I mentioned that SLOW MOVING PLANETS (either JUPITER, SATURN or very slow moving URANUS, NEPTUNE and PLUTO) will do NO 'bad' (and exact!) square/90° and Opposition/180°- aspect/s on the day of the BREXIT-voting(*), but that we still have some possible 'disruptive' aspects:
(*) - Except that SATURN will be doing a 150°/Quinkunx to MARS of the UK (and therefore ALSO an indirect/non-exact SEMISEXTILE/030° to the SUN of the OLD UK...
OLD UK Chart:
(TRANSITS to OLD UK-Planets/Points)
(Transits to Transits on 23-JUN-2016)
(SUN ARCs to OLD UK Planets/Points)
NEW UK Chart:
(TRANSITS to NEW UK-Planets/Points)
CONCLUSION:
SU/12-JUN-2016: 65% STAY: to therefore only 35% LEAVE...(?)
EU Referendum Betting - Latest Polling & Odds - June 12:
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH 50 TO 50!!! (WITHOUT Betfair's poll...)
So now let's look at it from an ASTRO point of view:
(and NOW we come to 1922 again - since THEN the UK is THIS UK WE ALL KNOW OF N-O-W - that was/is since 07-DEC-1922 15h28m WESTMINSTER/ENGLAND. - WHY? Well, most NON-BRITISH doesn't know that one, but THIS DAY/Natal Chart is/was the RE-organization of the UK from 01-JAN-1801... In 1801 the UK - then a Union between CYMRU/WALES & ALBA/SCOTLAND and ENGLAND - united with whole EIRE/IRELAND, with the official name of 'The UNITED KINGDOM of GREATBRITAIN and IRELAND'. This horoscope it still valid and used by a lot of (not-only-british) astrologers, and it often works pretty well! But HISTORICAL FACT is that THIS UK isn't existing anymore since 07-DEC-1922, because between 1916 to 1922 EIRE/IRELAND decided to LEAVE the UK, which ended in the REORGANISATION of the UK from 07-DEC-1922 with the NEW name of the UK called 'The UNITED KINGDOM of GREATBRITAIN and NORTHERN IRELAND'.)
This natal chart has some SIMILARITIES with the OLD one:
(as so often, also with the many other charts for England, Scotland and Wales. And they go back to the CROWNING of King EDGAR on 11-MAY-973...!)
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The 'OLD UK' - Chart from 01-JAN-1801 for WESTMINSTER/England. |
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| The 'NEW UK' - Chart from 07-DEC-1922 for WESTMINSTER/England. (UNITED KINGDOM of GREATBRITAIN and NORTHERN-IRELAND - this form of the UK is NOWADAYS/since 07-DEC-1922 - officially EXISTING) |
SIMILARITIES BETWEEN BOTH CHARTS:
- MOON!!! OLD UK: 19°CANCER 26' NEW UK: 23°CANCER 13' (SAME SIGN AND NEARLY SAME DEGREE! - 04° DIFFERENCE ONLY!)
- PLUTO!!! The SUN of OLD UK chart was/is at 10°CAPRICORN 11' and PLUTO of the NEW UK is at 10°CANCER 39' - in very exact OPPOSITION! (Which of course was responsible for the SEPARATION of EIRE and the UK between 1916-1922... often meaning TRANSFORMATION, usually with some prior/ preceding DESTRUCTION.)
- MERCURY!!! OLD UK: 17°SAGITTARIUS 34' and the NEW UK: 15°SAGITTARIUS 14' (SAME SIGN AND NEARLY SAME DEGREE! - 02° 20' DIFFERENCE ONLY!)
- NEPTUNE!!! OLD UK: 18°SCORPIO 44' , NEW UK: 18°LEO 07' (- EXACT SQUARE/90° BETWEEN THE 2 NEPTUNES! - This means somewhat the same as with the PLUTO-SUN opposition above, without the destruction, but some DISINTEGRATION and RUIN/ DECAY!...
- ASCENDANT!!! OLD UK: 07°LIBRA 10' and the NEW UK: 09°GEMINI 27' (In TRINE/120° to each other, showing/ meaning that it WAS A VERY IMPORTANT EVENT FOR THE UK!... - and in the LONG RUN quite likely a GOOD ONE.)
- JUPITER (08° SCORPIO 48') & URANUS (09° PISCES 49') of the NEW UK chart both SEXTILING/60° the SUN at 10°CAPRICORN 11' and MARS at 11° TAURUS 46' of the OLD UK chart! Giving MORE importance to the degrees from around between 08°-12°!
CONCLUSION:
1) The degrees 19-24° are VERY IMPORTANT, especially if in CANCER! (secondary: in CAPRICORN, ARIES and LIBRA - TAURUS and VIRGO...)
2) The degrees 08°-12° are VERY IMPORTANT, especially if in EARTH & WATER signs!
3) The degrees 15 -18° are SOMEWHAT IMPORTANT, especially if in FIRE SIGNS
4) The SIGNS of CANCER and CAPRICORN (nr. 1) & SAGITTARIUS (nr. 2) are SOMEWHAT IMPORTANT...
(Points Nr. 1 & 2 are MOST IMPORTANT, Points Nr. 3 & 4 are more likely to be of SECONDARY IMPACT...)
And NOW comes a kinda 'forecast' for the day (and months BEFORE and AFTER) of the BREXIT and the 2 UK-charts:
I did it more or less for the OLD UK - chart (in German language) several months before on this blog:
I mentioned that SLOW MOVING PLANETS (either JUPITER, SATURN or very slow moving URANUS, NEPTUNE and PLUTO) will do NO 'bad' (and exact!) square/90° and Opposition/180°- aspect/s on the day of the BREXIT-voting(*), but that we still have some possible 'disruptive' aspects:
(*) - Except that SATURN will be doing a 150°/Quinkunx to MARS of the UK (and therefore ALSO an indirect/non-exact SEMISEXTILE/030° to the SUN of the OLD UK...
OLD UK Chart:
(TRANSITS to OLD UK-Planets/Points)
- SUN 02°Cancer = Square/90° to URANUS/UK(old) ! (The TYPICAL 'bad surprise' aspect, also 'sensations' OR 'shocks'...) (Let's assume you're a LEAVE-voter, it would be for YOU a SENSATION, while for others who voted STAY it's quite likely a SHOCK... capisce?! ;-)
- MARS/retro! 23° Scorpio = Square/90° to SATURN/UK(old)! (The typical FRUSTRATION and 'RIEN NE VAS PLUS' aspect... ANGER and HINDERANCE. A typical 'LOOK BACK in ANGER' aspect and quite typical SEPARATION-aspect... - MOST EXACT ONE - only 00° 02' difference from exact!!!...)
- MERCURY 17°Gemini = Opposition/180° to MERCURY/UK(old). A typical OPINION against another OPINION aspect... ARGUMENTS & Disputes... (VERY EXACT = only 00°07' difference to exact...)
- SATURN 10° Sagittarius = Quinkunx/150° to MARS/UK(old) (meaning pretty much the SAME what you can read under Mars Square Saturn...!) (VERY EXACT, and coupled with SLOW MOVING 'BAD GUY' SATURN. Only 00°06' from exact...)
- MOON will also do a SQUARE/90°to MARS/UK(old) in the EVENING of 23-JUN-2016 - with a 01° degree orb between 16h30 - 20h30 local time/BST= British Summer Time... (often meaning STRONG = MARS REACTIONS/ FEELINGS = MOON)
(Transits to Transits on 23-JUN-2016)
- Most important one shall be the MARS-URANUS Quinkunx/150° - meaning pretty much the SAME AS ABOVE!....
- URANUS and NEPTUNE will be in DECLINATION (contra-paralell) from around 23-JUN to around END-OCT-2016... - full 4 months with a 01° orb. (often meaning SUDDEN = uranus - and often also HEFTY - RUIN /DECAY /DISAPOINTMENT = neptune....)
- SATURN Square/90° NEPTUNE (exact on 18-JUN-2016) - often meaning 'DECAY', DISAPOINTMENT, 'ILLUSIONS MEET HARSH REALITY' & HARD TIMES and BAD LUCK. (The DOWNTRODDEN and POOR/ FAILURE & FALLING OFFS...)
- JUPITER Trine/120° PLUTO (exact on 26-JUN-2016) - often meaning the total opposite of the Saturn-Neptune Square... (BIG SUCCESS, GREAT LUCK and ENORMOUS RICHES) (But Saturn-Neptune is between 19-22 - ONLY 4-1 days before the result 'HIGHLIGHTED' by MERCURY, which will form a GRAND CROSS between JUPITER/& Moon's NODES, SATURN and NEPTUNE... - I assume the Saturn-Neptune Square will be more powerful than the Jupiter-Pluto Trine...)
- MARS will be important, too - not only because it'll make the square written above on the BREXIT-day to SATURN of UK/old and a Quinkunx/150° to URANUS in the sky, but ALSO because it's VERY SLOW MOVING since it'll turn direction to DIRECT MODE again on 30-JUN-2016...(Actually MARS will do the Quinkunx/150° to URANUS with a 01°30 Orb from 11/12-JUN to 18-JUL-2016! - MORE than 1 month and gives us a hint for 'DISRUPTIONS', 'SHOCKS', VIOLENCE, TURMOIL and TURBULENCES...)
(SUN ARCs to OLD UK Planets/Points)
- SUN (!) 11°30' Leo squaring/090° MARS/UK (old)... (only 00°15' APPLYING, will be exact 3 months after BREXIT: 23-SEP-2016... later MC, SATURN and ASCENDANT will follow - the whole phase will take 3 1/2 - 4 yrs from BREXIT on: DEC-2019 to JUN-2020.) (which correspondends pretty perfect with URANUS squaring the MOON of the UK & then later PLUTO opposing the MOON of the UK(old) - see GRAPH below:)
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| With OLD UK-chart the UK will be likely in TURMOIL / TURBULENCES between 2011 - 2019 (and it might be especially so, between 2015/16 and from then on until end of 2019...) (NB: TRANSITS to NATAL CHART!) |
Now we come to the CURRENT (since 07-DEC-1922) UK...
(first we start with a GRAPHICAL EPHEMERIS, too:)
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| It looks MUCH WORSE with the current REORGANISATION of the UK chart from 07-DEC-1922! (TURMOIL is MUCH HEAVIER and HEFTY around actual BREXIT-day... here URANUS in the sky is squaring the MOON of BRITTANIA PERMANENTLY from END OF MAY 2016 - only 3 WEEKS before BREXIT! - until END OF OCT-2016! And will do it again in 2017 between EARLY MAR to MID-APR-2017! (NB: TRANSITS to NATAL CHART!) |
NEW UK Chart:
(TRANSITS to NEW UK-Planets/Points)
- URANUS 24°Aries = Square/90° to MOON/UK(new)! (The TYPICAL 'bad surprise' aspect, also 'sensations' OR 'shocks'...) (Let's assume you're a LEAVE-voter, it would be for YOU a SENSATION, while for others who voted STAY it's quite likely a SHOCK... capisce?! ;-) (URANUS will ALSO be in semisquare/45° to the ASCENDANT and URANUS of UK(new)
- MARS/retro! 23° Scorpio = Trine/120° to MOON/UK(new)! (This sounds GOOD at FIRST, it doesn't anymore when you remember, that the MOON gets a Square by URANUS, too - see above! - and therefore MARS in the sky is doing an EXACT QUINKUNX/150% to URANUS, too!) (only 00° 07' difference from exact!!!...)
- MERCURY 17°Gemini = Opposition/180° to MERCURY & SUN/UK(new). A typical OPINION against another OPINION aspect... ARGUMENTS & Disputes... (VERY EXACT = only 00°07' difference to exact...) (we have the SAME ASPECT in the OLD UK chart, because both MERCURIES are positioned nearly same degree!)
- SATURN 11°40 Sagittarius = Conjunction/000° to MERCURY & SUN/UK(new) (NOT EXACT, but WAS only some weeks before BREXIT-day between 15-APR to 25-MAY-2016; and WILL COME BACK AGAIN 26-oct TO 17-nov-2016...) (Check GRAPHICAL EPOHEMERIS for the NEW UK above!)
- NEPTUNE: please read in the new UK - GRAPH above, thanx!
We have a rather big difference betwen the OLD UK and the NEW UK 'natal-charts'. In the NEW one a slow moving planet - URANUS - is doing a square to the MOON of the UK, whilst MARS is doing a trine - meaning that the MARS-URANUS Quinkunx/150° which is actually EXACT on the BREXIT-day, is MOST IMPOTANT...
(Transits to Transits on 23-JUN-2016)
These are of course the VERY SAME than with the OLD UK chart... but i let stand here this following one, because as I've written above, THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE for the NEW UK chart:
(SUN ARCs to NEW UK Planets/Points)
(PROGRESSIONS to the NEW UK Planets/Points)
(Transits to Transits on 23-JUN-2016)
These are of course the VERY SAME than with the OLD UK chart... but i let stand here this following one, because as I've written above, THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE for the NEW UK chart:
- Most important one shall be the MARS-URANUS Quinkunx/150°!...
(SUN ARCs to NEW UK Planets/Points)
- URANUS (!) 14°39' Gemini opposing/180° SUN/UK (new)... (only 00°07' APPLYING, will be exact about EARLY AUG-2016... later URANUS will come into exact Opposition to MERCURY, around JAN-2017... (THIS is quite likely the MOST 'FRIGHTENING' aspect of ALL!...)(Another typical SEPARATION and DISRUPTION aspect...)
- SATURN (!) 22°38' comes into Opposition/180° to MOON/UK (new)... (00°34' applying; will be exact somewhere in FEB-2017, but WORKS from NOW ON!) (Another TYPICAL SEPARATION aspect...)
- MERCURY 27°08' Aquarius/conjoining MARS/UK (new)... (ABSOLUTELY EXACT!!!...) (ARGUMENTS, HOT TEMPER, CHOLERIC OUTBURSTS, SHARP TONGUE, BITING REMARKS, POLEMIC...and so on...)
- MARS 05°04 Taurus/squaring090° MC/UK (new)... (00°03' only) (meaning TROUBLES and DISPUTES/ RIOTS having to do with the STATUS of the UK...)
MY forecast is - done with astrology only - 55% LEAVE to 45% STAY...
(By the way: The natal chart of EIRE is 1 DAY before the REORGANISATION-chart for the nowadays UK: 06-DEC-1922, 17h00m DUBLIN/EIRE; they have 2 valid more ones, too: 24-APR-1916 around 12h00m DUBLIN/EIRE - when the RIOTS against the UK began - and 18-APR-1949 00h00m DUBLIN/EIRE, when the REPUBLIC of EIRE was formed and the FINAL SEPARATION & TOTAL INDEPENDANCE from the NEW UK took its place...)
in german:
Zur aktuellen Monats-Prognose:
And ONE thing is FOR SURE:
Even if the UK WILL NOT leave the EU, there will be DISRUPTIONS for the UK until end 2019/2020... (Scotland, UKIP? Something new/else??)
(The SAME will be true for LA GRANDE NATION/ FRANCE, strangely... well, not so strangely anymore if you KNOW, that BOTH COUNTRIES have their MOON at nearly the same degree in CANCER...)
(The SAME will be true for LA GRANDE NATION/ FRANCE, strangely... well, not so strangely anymore if you KNOW, that BOTH COUNTRIES have their MOON at nearly the same degree in CANCER...)
(By the way: The natal chart of EIRE is 1 DAY before the REORGANISATION-chart for the nowadays UK: 06-DEC-1922, 17h00m DUBLIN/EIRE; they have 2 valid more ones, too: 24-APR-1916 around 12h00m DUBLIN/EIRE - when the RIOTS against the UK began - and 18-APR-1949 00h00m DUBLIN/EIRE, when the REPUBLIC of EIRE was formed and the FINAL SEPARATION & TOTAL INDEPENDANCE from the NEW UK took its place...)
in german:
Zur aktuellen Monats-Prognose:
May the stars be with us!
Tibor Bugetty/FAC (Fine Astrosoup Creator)
c) 2011-2016
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